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The Jester Interview: John Hodgman
By Michael Shashoua / Jester editor-in-chief; photo by Jesse Costa
John Hodgman has had many guises: resident expert, personal computer
(PC in the Apple commercials), deranged millionaire and purveyor of
fake facts in three encyclopedic volumes. But in a new special,
“Ragnarock,” premiering on Netflix on June 20, he sheds them all.
Jester spoke to him as he started his day early one morning at his
Park Slope, Brooklyn residence.
Jester:
I was surprised you chose around this time in the morning. I would
think a deranged millionaire wouldn’t get up until at least 11 or
so.
John Hodgman:
For a long time, I was the resident expert, insane polymath and then
deranged millionaire and doomsday prophet, but when the world didn’t
end on Dec. 21, 2012, I had to face down a different kind of
apocalypse – the slow apocalyptic unwinding of my life that we all
face. I no longer have the luxury of denying who I truly am, a guy
named John Hodgman, who does have a mustache but otherwise is a
normal person with children who get up very early, and require food
before they go to school. The reality is sometimes you gotta make
eggs in the morning. … I’m really good at making eggs, I’ve got to
say.
J: That’s an essential skill.
JH: It is. … You want to heat the pan for a long
time, first of all. You want to put the pan over low heat and let it
get not very hot but medium hot – really let it heat up. Then you
want to spray it down with some spray-can canola oil of your
choosing. Just butter is not going to cut it. Then you can add a
little bit of butter right before you put the eggs in, so the butter
doesn’t burn. Then just walk away, dude, walk away. That goes for
scrambled eggs, fried eggs, an omelet, whatever you’re doing.
J: I learned that with scrambled eggs, it matters
how you fold them or beat them – that’s an essential part of how
good they’re going to be.
JH: You don’t want to over-scramble them. That’s
true. … With proper scrambled eggs, you would do it over a double
boiler, and keep them moving. That’s the traditional French way,
super low heat. I find that to be a little tiresome. But it’s all
about instinct. It’s all about practice.
So you run a website about eggs?
J: Yes, this is all about eggs.
JH: I’ve been following your website for a long
time. I’m really excited to talk about eggs. Have you ever seen emu
eggs in a supermarket?
I spend a good part of the year in rural western Massachusetts,
straight up the Connecticut River in the Pioneer Valley, which has
traditionally been an agricultural community and a struggling one.
One of the ways landowners attempted not to starve over the past 25
years was to raise alternative livestock. There was a huge llama
boom in Western Massachusetts and a huge emu boom, because emu are
like slightly smaller ostriches, and they can be harvested for their
meat. They also lay eggs.
I was in a regular old supermarket in Western Massachusetts and saw they were selling emu eggs. They had these things and didn’t know what to do with them. Emu eggs are about the size of a candlepin bowling ball. They’re deep forest green or blue color. I immediately felt that someone had slipped me hallucinogenic mushrooms.
J: Like you had gone through the looking glass.
JH: You have two possibilities when you crack these
things into a pan: either it’s going to continue in this surreal
vein and a million golden dragonflies will fly out and form the
shape of a man, or you’re going to have the most disgustingly huge
egg possible. Either way, I walked away from them. … I couldn’t
possibly bear it. But I figured the readers of your egg website
would like to know this. I love monomaniacal dedication to eggs, but
we can talk about other elements of my career as well.
J: OK, how did you choose this night, that could
have been “Ragnarock” [the Mayan end of the world] to do this kind
of, what I assume was a one-time only, one-of-a-kind performance?
JH: Well, I chose it because the Mayans chose it.
The ancient Mayans got together millennia ago, and created the long
count calendar. Based on our studies of that calendar, it became
clear that they stopped predicting time, or their prediction of time
went forward centuries but stopped on or around Dec 21, 2012, which
is what everyone was all up in arms about. You may have seen the
documentary, “2012,” where it was revealed that the world would end
in fire and flame, which are the same thing, and also flood, leaving
only John Cusack alive. That was what we had waiting for us.
J: I didn’t realize that was a documentary at the
time.
JH: It was a predictive documentary. … So I spent a
lot of time last year going from town to town warning people about
what was going to happen – that society would collapse and you would
have to start raising your own goats, rabbits and sperm whales. The
US dollar would become worthless and in the absence of any
government, the only currency that would have meaning would be the
beef jerky dollar. I would warn people about the return of the
ancient and unspeakable ones, the omega pulse, the blood wave and
the dog storm.
I put my faith in this ancient civilization, that this would all
come to some massive culminating event called Ragnarock, on Dec 21,
2012. So that was why I chose that particular date to draw the
faithful to me, to comfort them with comedy, songs and visions of my
mustache and all go out together or face whatever was next together.
But what I didn’t appreciate was that the thing we would all have to
face was just the dumb rest of our lives, because nothing happened,
and the Mayans were wrong. Looking back, maybe it was wrong for me
to have trusted them anyway. Those guys didn’t even know how to make
smooth pyramids, so how advanced could they have been? |
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